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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://snikket.de/social/menel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>menel</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://retro.social/@patrick" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>patrick</span></a></span> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> despite their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FUD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FUD</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MarketingLies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MarketingLies</span></a> is a very <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cebtralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cebtralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvieer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvieer</span></a> system relying on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GAFAMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAMs</span></a> and their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/API" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>API</span></a>|s as well as neither allowing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Given the risks if being bound to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a> law (incl. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>) it's just not an option.</li></ul><p>Not to mention it's <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">toxic followers that avt like cultists</a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> no it's not.</p><ul><li>Otherwise <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OrganizedCrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OrganizedCrime</span></a> would choose <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> so hard, you'd be shutdown within weeks by the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FBI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FBI</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> would be forced to <em>"pull a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LavaBit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LavaBit</span></a>"</em> and face jailtime for obstruction of justice or snitch on users! </li></ul><p>Being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solution subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> makes you inherently vulnerable <em>by your own choice</em> and thus trivial to shutdown compared to <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys and true <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME [see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> et. al.] and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> [see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> et. al.]!)</p><ul><li>Plus neither of those <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shill</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scams</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>! </li></ul><p>And don't even get me started on you collecting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (espechally <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a>) <em>for no valid reason</em>, (thus violating <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>)...</p><ul><li>Not to mention relying ob <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/charity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>charity</span></a> and being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> isn't sustainable to begin with!</li></ul><p>But yeah, I'll be patient to shout <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToldYaSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToldYaSo</span></a>"</em> to your annoying cult of fanboys!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> I disagree because your platform is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> and doesn't allow for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the Keys and you demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> in the form of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> which can be used.to track users down!</p><ul><li>If <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> was as secure as claimed, it would've been shut down like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> &amp; others...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ueeu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ueeu</span></a></span> I think crucial parts is looking at it's components, dependencies, size and for apps permissions.</p><ul><li>Also make shure it uses <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenStandards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenStandards</span></a>, because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> can be just a <em>"smoke grenade"</em> when it's a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solution.</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ReproduceableBuilds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ReproduceableBuilds</span></a> for example are important, so the actually released source code is what people actually get served as basis.</p><ul><li>Both of the latter points are something that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> does perfectly and that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> completely fails at!</li></ul><p>Plus in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a>, choose *real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Keys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Keys</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@bdf2121cc3334b35b6ecda66e471" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bdf2121cc3334b35b6ecda66e471</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.glitched.systems/@froge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>froge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fj</span></a></span> maybe but it's better than a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleBendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleBendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solutiom as it just works even on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/throttled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>throttled</span></a>, sub-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> speeds over <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>...</p><ul><li>And you get <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the Keys</em>!<a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114223266562515116" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1142232</span><span class="invisible">66562515116</span></a></li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fj</span></a></span> I still think <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> has fundamental flaws like demanding <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> can't be obtained anonymously around the globe <em>and</em> are trivial to track down to devices and thus users), being subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> as an <em>unnecessary &amp; 100% avoidable risk</em> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> shilling (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>) and it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> nature that makes it inferior to <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a></em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@licho" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>licho</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@osman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>osman</span></a></span> provide evidence the code <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> released is actually being deployed.</p><ul><li>Whereas <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> has <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ReproducibleBuilds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ReproducibleBuilds</span></a> to the point that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@fdroidorg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fdroidorg</span></a></span> literally pulls their <code>git</code> and builds it from source.</li></ul><p>Not to mention pushing a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>) disqualifies <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> per very design!<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><ul><li>Given the collection of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a>, the ability to restrict functionality based off those and the fact that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> is subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> make it inherently not trustworthy.</li></ul><p>And don't even get me started on the fact.it's not sustainable to run it as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a>!</p><ul><li>As soon as Signal becomes a problem, it will be taken offline, and due to the fact that it is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> that's trivial for authorities.</li></ul><p>Same as identifying users: They already got a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> which in many juristictions one can't even obtain without <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ID</span></a> legally, thus making it super easy to i.e. find and locate a user. Even tze cheapest LEAs can force their local M(V)NOs to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SS7" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SS7</span></a> a specific number...</p><ul><li>All these are <em>unnecessary risks</em>, that could've been avoided, but explicitly don't even get remediated retroactively!</li></ul><p>Again: Signal has a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Honeypot</span></a> stench, and you better learn proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiteracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiteracy</span></a> because <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210606070919/twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>corporations can't pull the 5th [Amendment] on your behalf</em>!</a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@osman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>osman</span></a></span> If your <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a> relies on <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> and/or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210908180219/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">risking jail <em>or worse</em></a>, you fucked up!</p><ul><li>If <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> was secure, it would've been shutdown like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>. </li></ul><p>Seriously, to me <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> stenches <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Honeypot</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a>. </p><ul><li>All Signal fans do is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FUD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FUD</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME and#XMPP+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> which are truly <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> and allow real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> for complete control of all the data and keys...</li></ul><p>That's why I get people setup with it!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://meow.social/@Catwoman69y2k" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Catwoman69y2k</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://dragonchat.org/@dragonfriend" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dragonfriend</span></a></span> most importantly:</p><p>Only with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> of the entire infrastructure <em>and</em> everything being <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a>, one can assure (and [let it be] audit[ed] independently) that the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/advertised" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>advertised</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/promises" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>promises</span></a> are in fact true.</p><ul><li>All <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solutions - and yes that includes <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> as well (!!!) - are inherently insecure because they can be <em>forced into "cooperation"</em> - may it be with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfacism</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> or <em><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210908180219/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listeally a gun to their head</a></em>...</li></ul><p>Cuz not expecting <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> to break is the same level of <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em> assurances as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> etc. do <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PW3O2mqTn8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in their</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/advetising" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>advetising</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/lies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lies</span></a>! </p><ul><li>Remember: Corporations/Foundations/non-profits/... <em>don't have a right to be silent</em> , only individuals, and even then there are certain juristictions that have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KeyEscrow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KeyEscrow</span></a> laws (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>France</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russia</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KSA</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/India" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>India</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UK</span></a> , ...) in the books!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://meow.social/@Catwoman69y2k" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Catwoman69y2k</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://dragonchat.org/@dragonfriend" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dragonfriend</span></a></span> All <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GroupChats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GroupChats</span></a> that ain't fully <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> are inherently insecure.</p><ul><li>So far the only good option for that I know is <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.chinwag.org/@FediThing" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>FediThing</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pouet.pas.la/@nicoco" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nicoco</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@fabiscafe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fabiscafe</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://linuxmom.net/@vkc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>vkc</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agreement</em></p><p><em>"Perfect"</em> would be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OneTimePad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OneTimePad</span></a>, but that's just not in the cards - period!</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME are the next-best options that are documented, multi-vendor &amp; multi-provider standardsband offer <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114177752291377549" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1141777</span><span class="invisible">52291377549</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://linuxmom.net/@vkc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>vkc</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agreement</em></p><p>The only safe comms are <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME with <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a></em> of <em>all the keys</em>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@catsalad" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>catsalad</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Em0nM4stodon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Em0nM4stodon</span></a></span> +9001%</p><p>My Energy is: </p><p>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnsupervisedChildren" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UnsupervisedChildren</span></a> will be given free <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USB</span></a> Flashdroves with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tails_live</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@tails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tails</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tails</span></a> on and taught proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> as well as the concept of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/STFUfriday" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>STFUfriday</span></a>!"</p><ul><li><em>And yes, I mean it!</em></li></ul><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.earth/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoParty</span></a> NOW!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://furry.engineer/@soatok" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>soatok</span></a></span> still, in that case one should invest in proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a>!</p><ul><li><p>Learn <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys!</p></li><li><p>Have contingencies and protocils in place to deal with forced disappearrance of personnel and theft of IT assets.</p></li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://corteximplant.com/@m4ra" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>m4ra</span></a></span> which is why having <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> with <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the Keys</em> is vital!</p><ul><li>Only <em>you</em> can then control access and thus refuse to (self-) incriminate!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@truls46" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>truls46</span></a></span> Ein gutes Gegenbeispiel zu <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> ist <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a>:</p><ul><li><p>Es werden <em>keine persönliche Daten</em> verlangt!</p></li><li><p>Es wird ein offener Standard (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>) genutzt, sodass <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenhoheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Datenhoheit</span></a> gewährleistet ist!</p></li><li><p>Der Dienst ist zwar kostenpflichtig (€2 p.m.), aber komplett anonym bezahlbar (inkl. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CashByMail</span></a>)!</p></li><li><p>Nutzung von <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> wird nicht verhindert oder blockiert; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.librem.one/@guardianproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>guardianproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Orbot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Orbot</span></a> wird unterstützt!</p></li><li><p>In <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Deutschland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Deutschland</span></a> gibt's immernoch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rechtsstaatlichkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rechtsstaatlichkeit</span></a>, anders als in den <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a>!</p></li><li><p>Anders als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a> <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/services/chat.service/#limitations_and_known_issues" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ehrlich, was Sicherheit und Datenschutz angeht</a>...</p></li></ul><p>Ich denke mal das sollte hinreichend meine Argumebte darlegen.</p><ul><li>Kernpunkt ist und bleibt: Signal ist bestenfalls gemeingefährlich-inkompetent oder ein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Honeypot</span></a>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> genau das ist der Falsche Ansatz, da Threat Models sich ständig verschieben und nicht ausgegangen werden kann, dass es dabei bleibt.</p><ul><li>Das technisch sicherstmögliche auf verbreiteter Hardware &amp; Systemen ist und bleibt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> über <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, idealerweise an einen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>, weil damit echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> machbar ist!</li></ul><p>Keine*r deloyed drölfzig Messenger oder migriert bedarfsweise User*innen umher.</p><ul><li>Anders als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|e &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|e Systeme (egal ob <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, etc.) ist XMPP+OMEMO an sich sicher!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> es gibt <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">soviele Gründe</a> weshalb Mensch nicht <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> vertrauen sollte.</p><p>Aber um es nochnal klar zu erklären:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> verlangt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a> = <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (Persönlich identifizierbare Informationen). [Und nein, sich irgendwo zwielichtig ne Nummer als Ausrede greift nicht!]</p></li><li><p>Signal ist zentralisiert &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> sowie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>!</p></li><li><p>Signal fällt wegen Sitz in den <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> unter <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> = inhärent mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DSGVO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DSGVO</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a> inkompatibel!</p></li><li><p>Signal erlaubt keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> aller Keys und ist deshalb für Einige Angriffsmethoden offen!</p></li></ul><p>Nur echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dezentralisierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Dezentralisierung</span></a> wie bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> kann <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenschutz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Datenschutz</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Informationssicherheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Informationssicherheit</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Vertraulichkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Vertraulichkeit</span></a> sicherstellen.</p><ul><li>Anders als Signal kann <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> nicht gegen Nutzer basierend auf Herkunft (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rufnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rufnummer</span></a>!) diskriminieren und anders als Signal funktioniert XMPP+OMEMO problemlos über <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> und kann als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosted</span></a></em> werden, für maximale <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Privatsph%C3%A4re" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Privatsphäre</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenhoheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Datenhoheit</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Die strukturellen Probleme von Signal machen es angesichts einer <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gleichgeschaltet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gleichgeschaltet</span></a>|en <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a></em> ein absolut unnötiges <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Risiko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Risiko</span></a>, denn ich garantiere <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> wird für keine*n User*in lebenslange <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Beugehaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Beugehaft</span></a> riskieren!</p><ul><li>Genauso wie's <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220112020000/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">keine</a> <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LoglessVPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LoglessVPN</span></a>|s"</em> gibt!</li></ul><p>Und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> ist sehr wohl in der Lage <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backdoors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Backdoors</span></a> zu integrieren, denn sonst wären die wegen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITAR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITAR</span></a> bereits geknastet worden, weil diese <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nutzer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nutzer</span></a>*innen aus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kuba" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kuba</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nordkorea" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nordkorea</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russland</span></a> haben!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toot.io/@ravi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ravi</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> for <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> with <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> if all the Keys</em>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@voxel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>voxel</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@SignalUpdateInfo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>SignalUpdateInfo</span></a></span> The fact that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> gasn't flexed <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> against <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> is not worth a sigh of relief!</p><ul><li>Migrate to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> for <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> with <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the Keys!</em></li></ul>