@krutonium @quasigod I mean the advantage is that those devices are supported with @GrapheneOS ...

• Whether you choose them or not is up to you...

Personally, I need my #ToolfreeSwappableBattery, #DualSIM and #microSD as well s #HeadphoneJack and won't negotiate these, so #Fairphone is already loosing me as a customer and my next device will likely be something else...

@lispi314 @halva @chfour +9001%

There's no legitimate reason i.e. #Fairphone could've continued to jeep a #repairaboe & #replaceable #HeadphoneJack!
https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113875013954333870

@halva +9001%

• #HeadphoneJack is a non-negotiable #MustHave!

Just like #ToolfreeSwappableBattery and real #DualSIM (not #eSIM! If I want that I'll get that myself...)

@ustralien Sadly no, and that's my big disappointment!

@frameworkcomputer decided to choose the #Apple-esque "flat cells below #trackpad" design in the unreasonable #THINN-ness race instead of doing what even the #EeePC and #Sony's #Vaio #P11Z did and have a slot at the back to chug in batteries!

• I know why they did it, as a closed aluminium pan aka. "#lunchbox" design is easier to fabricate, but I'd rather some #ToolfreeSwappableBattery which are IMHO of more practicality than having the ability to swap out every port.

Not that I don't like those #modules, but I'd rather wish for a "#THICC-er" device if that gets me essentials like #Ethernet, #USB-A & -C as well as a #TRRS #HeadphoneJack / #HeadsetJack.

• I mean, I understand they won't make space for a underslung #Dock, a #Slimline - #ODD or god forbid #ExpressCard, and in terms of #tech I'd welcome #Thunderbolt over #OCuLink, but there's a reason I've not canceled the #NUCbook and if I didn't have to buy/procure #COTS products I'd likely just buy a #Pi500 with a #Powerbank and screen slapped on...

That being said the #Framework is still by a long margin the "least #enshittified" device on the market, and same goes for the #Fairphone devices...

• I just wished #FrameworkLaptop and Fairphone were just refusing the #Enshittification trend entirely, cuz I'd rather have a #Toughbook-Style device made out of #Thinkpadnium or even better #Nokianite than some fancy Aluminium stuff if that makes it more #repairable, #upradeable and espechally doesn't result in a #Downgrade.

Not to mention they don't have an #UltraNav-Style #Trackpoint and I do use that instead of a Trackpad.

• The only reason I'm not daily driving my #P11Z anymore is because until I got @OS1337 into a useable state it's hardware, which was already #LowEnd at launch, can barely run @bunsenlabs and thus is not an option for #DailyDriving #Linux #Desktop workflows anyways...

What really pisses me off is that everyone thinks @frameworkcomputer and #Fairphone are glorious, when in fact even #Framework13 & #Fairphone4 / #Fairphone5 are objectively #Downgrade|s compared to what I'm currently using: [ #ThinkPad #X230Tablet #Fairphone3plus ]

• The newer Fairphones don't have real #DualSIM and instead of a 2nd SIM Slot a shitty #eSIM and removed the #HeadphoneJack for no valid reason!

• #Framework doesn't have #ToolfreeSwappable #Batteries so having more #offgrid range isn't done by a quick swap on the go.

@vxo Yeah, I know, everyone likes the #GP200 with the pogo pins.

• Personally, I think that with the expired #MagSafe patent they could include such a safe-breaking connection.

Or even better: JUST INCLUDE A #HeadphoneJack (like any sane person wants)!

• Sony made #Smartphones they advertised for making #Selfies underwater in #SwimmingPools and they had both #ReplaceableBatteries and #HeadphoneJacks!

@vxo @plut0nium I just wished #Fairphone would've kept the #HeadphoneJack cuz I love my Logitech #G433 headset with it's fully removeable cables and mic...

@chr1st1an thanks.

I did hear about @shiftphones / #shift in the past, but that #HeadphoneJack / #HeadsetJack is kinda non-negotiable.

• I can understand why no phone supports #OMTP instead of #CTIA for the #Headset but that is fixable with a cheap, passive adaptor...

Still, for others this may be the option...

@Pandora @murena @e_mydata @gael
I am aware of #murena and #eOS and I do think they are great.

• It's just that with the #Fairphone3plus being #OutOfProduction there isn't any viable option that ticks my boxes...

• no real #DualSIM and no #HeadphoneJack are #WontBuy for me, even if some people think having the freedom to switch devices without the network operators' blessing and being able to just plug in a decent headphone instead of some #unrepariable #bluetooth #garbage is a "nieche case"...

@SecurityWriter Also I still hate #Fairphone's asshole move to remove the #HeadphoneJack like #Apple...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgBDdDdSqNE

@GrapheneOS good.

Now I just need to find a device that you support that isn't a gued-shut & unrepairable mess with real #DualSIM, #MicroSD & #HeadphoneJack...

I really wished you'd support #shift and #Fairphone|s...

@timixretroplays nodds in agreement

The faster and harder the #Enshittification hits the more pressing the need becomes to #DIY stuff because everything is being #enshittified and #downgraded.

• #Fairphone steals the 2nd #SIM Slot and #HeadphoneJack for no valid reason.

• Even @frameworkcomputer doesn't iffer #ToolfreeSwappableBatteries anymore.

It's increasingly aggravating...

@eri But sadly #Fairphone nowadays does the same, removing the #HeadphoneJack and #DualSIM / 2nd #SIM slot for the #Fairphone4 & #Fairphone5 for no good reason whatsoever!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg0497vB4uc&t=257s

And yes, I am #StillMad and angry about it!

@lmorchard I'm still not a fan of #Fairphone cancelling the #Headphone jack for no good reason.

I mean, #Sony made the #XperieZ3 that was literally advertised for #Selfies in the #pool and that had a #TRRS 3,5mm jack so no excuse to not have on on the #Fairphone4 & #Fairphone5.

Maybe put it on a replaceable module or include some attached rubber pin to seal it shut when not in use...

• sent from a #Fairphone3Plus

#Fairphone3+ #HeadphoneJack